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Whitelist & spam

Andy Knuts
Today we have a lot of spam getting through. They are all sent from random *@ups.com addresses using a lot of different IP's. Here's an example:


Aug-18-16 12:46:15 [Worker_3] Connected: session:7EFE8B4366C0 83.110.218.163:56196 > <snip>:25 > 127.0.0.1:125
Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163 <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted sender Domain: @ups.com
Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163 <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] info: domain ups.com has published a DMARC record
Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163 <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] [scoring] SPF: fail ip=83.110.218.163 mailfrom=[hidden email] helo=bba423262.alshamil.net.ae
Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163 <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Message-Score: added 21 (spfValencePB) for SPF fail, total score for this message is now 21
Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163 <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] DMARC: this mail breakes the DKIM policies defined in the DMARC record for domain ups.com - there is no DKIM-signature found in this mail for domain ups.com
Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] [MessageOK] 83.110.218.163 <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] message ok - (whiteListedDomains '@ups.com') - [Emailing Label] -> /var/db/assp/notspam/Emailing_Label--37641.eml
Aug-18-16 12:46:19 [Worker_3] Disconnected: session:7EFE8B4366C0 83.110.218.163 - processing time 4 seconds


If I use the mail analyzer both HMM and Bayesian tell me they are confident it's spam but assp is not running the bayes/hmm check for these kind of emails because "ups.com" is whitelisted by ASSP's default configuration.

Does this mean anyone can send any spam email to use for any of the whitelisted domains in ASSP?
And how can I prevent this from happening?

Thanks

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Re: Whitelist & spam

Andy Knuts
I do have "DoOrgWhiting" set to "Score" instead of "Whiting".
Shouldn't it just decrease the score because ups.com is whitelisted and still continue with other other checks (hmm/bayes) as normal?


----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Knuts [mailto:[hidden email]]
To:
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Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:40:20
+0100
Subject: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam


> Today we have a lot of spam getting through. They are all sent from random
> *@ups.com addresses using a lot of different IP's. Here's an example:
>
>
> Aug-18-16 12:46:15 [Worker_3] Connected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> 83.110.218.163:56196 > <snip>:25 > 127.0.0.1:125
> Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted sender
> Domain: @ups.com
> Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] info: domain ups.com
> has published a DMARC record
> Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] [scoring] SPF: fail
> ip=83.110.218.163 mailfrom=[hidden email]
> helo=bba423262.alshamil.net.ae
> Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Message-Score: added 21
> (spfValencePB) for SPF fail, total score for this message is now 21
> Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] DMARC: this mail
> breakes the DKIM policies defined in the DMARC record for domain ups.com -
> there is no DKIM-signature found in this mail for domain ups.com
> Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] [MessageOK] 83.110.218.163
> <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] message ok -
> (whiteListedDomains '@ups.com') - [Emailing Label] ->
> /var/db/assp/notspam/Emailing_Label--37641.eml
> Aug-18-16 12:46:19 [Worker_3] Disconnected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> 83.110.218.163 - processing time 4 seconds
>
>
> If I use the mail analyzer both HMM and Bayesian tell me they are confident
> it's spam but assp is not running the bayes/hmm check for these kind of
> emails because "ups.com" is whitelisted by ASSP's default configuration.
>
> Does this mean anyone can send any spam email to use for any of the
> whitelisted domains in ASSP?
> And how can I prevent this from happening?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Whitelist & spam

K Post
Do you have ups.com in whiteListedDomains?

The line:
      Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163 <
[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted sender
Domain: @ups.com
leads me to believe that you do.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Andy Knuts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I do have "DoOrgWhiting" set to "Score" instead of "Whiting".
> Shouldn't it just decrease the score because ups.com is whitelisted and
> still continue with other other checks (hmm/bayes) as normal?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andy Knuts [mailto:[hidden email]]
> To:
> [hidden email]
> Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:40:20
> +0100
> Subject: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam
>
>
> > Today we have a lot of spam getting through. They are all sent from
> random
> > *@ups.com addresses using a lot of different IP's. Here's an example:
> >
> >
> > Aug-18-16 12:46:15 [Worker_3] Connected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> > 83.110.218.163:56196 > <snip>:25 > 127.0.0.1:125
> > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted sender
> > Domain: @ups.com
> > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] info: domain
> ups.com
> > has published a DMARC record
> > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] [scoring] SPF: fail
> > ip=83.110.218.163 mailfrom=[hidden email]
> > helo=bba423262.alshamil.net.ae
> > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Message-Score:
> added 21
> > (spfValencePB) for SPF fail, total score for this message is now 21
> > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] DMARC: this mail
> > breakes the DKIM policies defined in the DMARC record for domain ups.com
> -
> > there is no DKIM-signature found in this mail for domain ups.com
> > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] [MessageOK] 83.110.218.163
> > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] message ok -
> > (whiteListedDomains '@ups.com') - [Emailing Label] ->
> > /var/db/assp/notspam/Emailing_Label--37641.eml
> > Aug-18-16 12:46:19 [Worker_3] Disconnected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> > 83.110.218.163 - processing time 4 seconds
> >
> >
> > If I use the mail analyzer both HMM and Bayesian tell me they are
> confident
> > it's spam but assp is not running the bayes/hmm check for these kind of
> > emails because "ups.com" is whitelisted by ASSP's default configuration.
> >
> > Does this mean anyone can send any spam email to use for any of the
> > whitelisted domains in ASSP?
> > And how can I prevent this from happening?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------
> > _______________________________________________
> > Assp-user mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
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Re: Whitelist & spam

Andy Knuts
Yes. I'm using the included whiteListDomains so ASSP default configuration is to whitelist ups.com.
Maybe I need to enable BayesWL?

----- Original Message -----
From: K Post
[mailto:[hidden email]]
To: For Users of ASSP
[mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:26:19
+0100
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam


> Do you have ups.com in whiteListedDomains?
>
> The line:
>       Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163 <
> [hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted sender
> Domain: @ups.com
> leads me to believe that you do.
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Andy Knuts <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I do have "DoOrgWhiting" set to "Score" instead of "Whiting".
> > Shouldn't it just decrease the score because ups.com is whitelisted and
> > still continue with other other checks (hmm/bayes) as normal?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Andy Knuts [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > To:
> > [hidden email]
> > Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:40:20
> > +0100
> > Subject: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam
> >
> >
> > > Today we have a lot of spam getting through. They are all sent from
> > random
> > > *@ups.com addresses using a lot of different IP's. Here's an example:
> > >
> > >
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:15 [Worker_3] Connected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> > > 83.110.218.163:56196 > <snip>:25 > 127.0.0.1:125
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted sender
> > > Domain: @ups.com
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] info: domain
> > ups.com
> > > has published a DMARC record
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] [scoring] SPF: fail
> > > ip=83.110.218.163 mailfrom=[hidden email]
> > > helo=bba423262.alshamil.net.ae
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Message-Score:
> > added 21
> > > (spfValencePB) for SPF fail, total score for this message is now 21
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] DMARC: this mail
> > > breakes the DKIM policies defined in the DMARC record for domain ups.com
> > -
> > > there is no DKIM-signature found in this mail for domain ups.com
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] [MessageOK] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] message ok -
> > > (whiteListedDomains '@ups.com') - [Emailing Label] ->
> > > /var/db/assp/notspam/Emailing_Label--37641.eml
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:19 [Worker_3] Disconnected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> > > 83.110.218.163 - processing time 4 seconds
> > >
> > >
> > > If I use the mail analyzer both HMM and Bayesian tell me they are
> > confident
> > > it's spam but assp is not running the bayes/hmm check for these kind of
> > > emails because "ups.com" is whitelisted by ASSP's default configuration.
> > >
> > > Does this mean anyone can send any spam email to use for any of the
> > > whitelisted domains in ASSP?
> > > And how can I prevent this from happening?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------------------
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Assp-user mailing list
> > > [hidden email]
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------------------
> > _______________________________________________
> > Assp-user mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
> >
>

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Re: Whitelist & spam

Thomas Eckardt/eck
>They are all sent from random *@ups.com addresses using a lot of
different IP's.

SPF will catch it.

Thomas





Von:    "Andy Knuts" <[hidden email]>
An:     "For Users of ASSP" <[hidden email]>
Datum:  18.08.2016 16:42
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam



Yes. I'm using the included whiteListDomains so ASSP default configuration
is to whitelist ups.com.
Maybe I need to enable BayesWL?

----- Original Message -----
From: K Post
[mailto:[hidden email]]
To: For Users of ASSP
[mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:26:19
+0100
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam


> Do you have ups.com in whiteListedDomains?
>
> The line:
>       Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163 <
> [hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted sender
> Domain: @ups.com
> leads me to believe that you do.
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Andy Knuts <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I do have "DoOrgWhiting" set to "Score" instead of "Whiting".
> > Shouldn't it just decrease the score because ups.com is whitelisted
and

> > still continue with other other checks (hmm/bayes) as normal?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Andy Knuts [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > To:
> > [hidden email]
> > Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:40:20
> > +0100
> > Subject: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam
> >
> >
> > > Today we have a lot of spam getting through. They are all sent from
> > random
> > > *@ups.com addresses using a lot of different IP's. Here's an
example:
> > >
> > >
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:15 [Worker_3] Connected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> > > 83.110.218.163:56196 > <snip>:25 > 127.0.0.1:125
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted
sender
> > > Domain: @ups.com
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] info: domain
> > ups.com
> > > has published a DMARC record
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] [scoring] SPF:
fail
> > > ip=83.110.218.163 mailfrom=[hidden email]
> > > helo=bba423262.alshamil.net.ae
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Message-Score:
> > added 21
> > > (spfValencePB) for SPF fail, total score for this message is now 21
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] DMARC: this
mail
> > > breakes the DKIM policies defined in the DMARC record for domain
ups.com
> > -
> > > there is no DKIM-signature found in this mail for domain ups.com
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] [MessageOK]
83.110.218.163

> > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] message ok -
> > > (whiteListedDomains '@ups.com') - [Emailing Label] ->
> > > /var/db/assp/notspam/Emailing_Label--37641.eml
> > > Aug-18-16 12:46:19 [Worker_3] Disconnected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> > > 83.110.218.163 - processing time 4 seconds
> > >
> > >
> > > If I use the mail analyzer both HMM and Bayesian tell me they are
> > confident
> > > it's spam but assp is not running the bayes/hmm check for these kind
of
> > > emails because "ups.com" is whitelisted by ASSP's default
configuration.

> > >
> > > Does this mean anyone can send any spam email to use for any of the
> > > whitelisted domains in ASSP?
> > > And how can I prevent this from happening?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------------------
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Assp-user mailing list
> > > [hidden email]
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------------------
> > _______________________________________________
> > Assp-user mailing list
> > [hidden email]
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
> >
>
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Re: Whitelist & spam

Andy Knuts
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So I have to add ups.com to blockstrictSPFRe?

----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Eckardt
[mailto:[hidden email]]
To: For Users of ASSP
[mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:15:18
+0100
Subject: Re: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam


> >They are all sent from random *@ups.com addresses using a lot of
> different IP's.
>
> SPF will catch it.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:    "Andy Knuts" <[hidden email]>
> An:     "For Users of ASSP" <[hidden email]>
> Datum:  18.08.2016 16:42
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam
>
>
>
> Yes. I'm using the included whiteListDomains so ASSP default configuration
> is to whitelist ups.com.
> Maybe I need to enable BayesWL?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: K Post
> [mailto:[hidden email]]
> To: For Users of ASSP
> [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:26:19
> +0100
> Subject: Re: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam
>
>
> > Do you have ups.com in whiteListedDomains?
> >
> > The line:
> >       Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163 <
> > [hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted sender
> > Domain: @ups.com
> > leads me to believe that you do.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:44 AM, Andy Knuts <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > > I do have "DoOrgWhiting" set to "Score" instead of "Whiting".
> > > Shouldn't it just decrease the score because ups.com is whitelisted
> and
> > > still continue with other other checks (hmm/bayes) as normal?
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Andy Knuts [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > > To:
> > > [hidden email]
> > > Sent: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:40:20
> > > +0100
> > > Subject: [Assp-user] Whitelist & spam
> > >
> > >
> > > > Today we have a lot of spam getting through. They are all sent from
> > > random
> > > > *@ups.com addresses using a lot of different IP's. Here's an
> example:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Aug-18-16 12:46:15 [Worker_3] Connected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> > > > 83.110.218.163:56196 > <snip>:25 > 127.0.0.1:125
> > > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Whitelisted
> sender
> > > > Domain: @ups.com
> > > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] info: domain
> > > ups.com
> > > > has published a DMARC record
> > > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] [scoring] SPF:
> fail
> > > > ip=83.110.218.163 mailfrom=[hidden email]
> > > > helo=bba423262.alshamil.net.ae
> > > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] Message-Score:
> > > added 21
> > > > (spfValencePB) for SPF fail, total score for this message is now 21
> > > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] 83.110.218.163
> > > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] DMARC: this
> mail
> > > > breakes the DKIM policies defined in the DMARC record for domain
> ups.com
> > > -
> > > > there is no DKIM-signature found in this mail for domain ups.com
> > > > Aug-18-16 12:46:17 m1-17176-01346 [Worker_3] [MessageOK]
> 83.110.218.163
> > > > <[hidden email]> to: [hidden email] message ok -
> > > > (whiteListedDomains '@ups.com') - [Emailing Label] ->
> > > > /var/db/assp/notspam/Emailing_Label--37641.eml
> > > > Aug-18-16 12:46:19 [Worker_3] Disconnected: session:7EFE8B4366C0
> > > > 83.110.218.163 - processing time 4 seconds
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If I use the mail analyzer both HMM and Bayesian tell me they are
> > > confident
> > > > it's spam but assp is not running the bayes/hmm check for these kind
> of
> > > > emails because "ups.com" is whitelisted by ASSP's default
> configuration.
> > > >
> > > > Does this mean anyone can send any spam email to use for any of the
> > > > whitelisted domains in ASSP?
> > > > And how can I prevent this from happening?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ------------------
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Assp-user mailing list
> > > > [hidden email]
> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
> > > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ------------------
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Assp-user mailing list
> > > [hidden email]
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/assp-user
> > >
> >
>
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