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Thomas Eckardt/eck
Hi all,

with the 1.1.2017 the development perl base is switched to Perl 5.024001 - 5.24.1.

NOTICE:

Perl 5.24 has still an experimental state in relation with assp. The first 2017 dev. build will solve all unexpected warnings in perl 5.24.1 (also in the yesterday published new plugin versions).
Target is, to give Perl 5.24 the production ready state within the first quater of 2017.

EOL - announcement for the next two years:

Starting with the third quater of 2017 (1.7.2017) ASSPv2 will no longer run with Perl 5.10!
Perl 5.12 (5.12 3) may be used, but will not be supported with the start of 2018 (1.1.2018).
Within 2018 - all perl versions lower than 5.020000 (5.20.0) will get an unsupported state in relation with assp V2.

Thomas


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Re: assp developent has switched perl base

K Post
Thanks for letting us know.  Has any testing been done with 5.24.1 Per ActiveState on Windows?  I believe you didn't recommend newer than 5.20.x on Windows due to lack of module support in the repository.


On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Thomas Eckardt <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

with the 1.1.2017 the development perl base is switched to Perl 5.024001 - 5.24.1.

NOTICE:

Perl 5.24 has still an experimental state in relation with assp. The first 2017 dev. build will solve all unexpected warnings in perl 5.24.1 (also in the yesterday published new plugin versions).
Target is, to give Perl 5.24 the production ready state within the first quater of 2017.

EOL - announcement for the next two years:

Starting with the third quater of 2017 (1.7.2017) ASSPv2 will no longer run with Perl 5.10!
Perl 5.12 (5.12 3) may be used, but will not be supported with the start of 2018 (1.1.2018).
Within 2018 - all perl versions lower than 5.020000 (5.20.0) will get an unsupported state in relation with assp V2.

Thomas


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Re: assp developent has switched perl base

K Post
-- or are you suggest Strawberry for Windows (which I've never touched)?

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:34 AM, K Post <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks for letting us know.  Has any testing been done with 5.24.1 Per ActiveState on Windows?  I believe you didn't recommend newer than 5.20.x on Windows due to lack of module support in the repository.


On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Thomas Eckardt <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

with the 1.1.2017 the development perl base is switched to Perl 5.024001 - 5.24.1.

NOTICE:

Perl 5.24 has still an experimental state in relation with assp. The first 2017 dev. build will solve all unexpected warnings in perl 5.24.1 (also in the yesterday published new plugin versions).
Target is, to give Perl 5.24 the production ready state within the first quater of 2017.

EOL - announcement for the next two years:

Starting with the third quater of 2017 (1.7.2017) ASSPv2 will no longer run with Perl 5.10!
Perl 5.12 (5.12 3) may be used, but will not be supported with the start of 2018 (1.1.2018).
Within 2018 - all perl versions lower than 5.020000 (5.20.0) will get an unsupported state in relation with assp V2.

Thomas


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Re: assp developent has switched perl base

Thomas Eckardt/eck
Perl 5.24 on windows is currently possible using strawberry perl. An relocateable ZIP is available at SF download.
Active Perl requires currently, that you complie the needed XS modules by yourself.

Thomas




Von:        K Post <[hidden email]>
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Datum:        02.01.2017 17:37
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-- or are you suggest Strawberry for Windows (which I've never touched)?

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:34 AM, K Post <nntp.post@...> wrote:
Thanks for letting us know.  Has any testing been done with 5.24.1 Per ActiveState on Windows?  I believe you didn't recommend newer than 5.20.x on Windows due to lack of module support in the repository.


On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Thomas Eckardt <Thomas.Eckardt@...> wrote:
Hi all,

with the 1.1.2017 the development perl base is switched to Perl 5.024001 - 5.24.1.


NOTICE:

Perl 5.24 has still an experimental state in relation with assp. The first 2017 dev. build will solve all unexpected warnings in perl 5.24.1 (also in the yesterday published new plugin versions).

Target is, to give Perl 5.24 the production ready state within the first quater of 2017.


EOL - announcement for the next two years:


Starting with the third quater of 2017 (1.7.2017) ASSPv2 will no longer run with Perl 5.10!

Perl 5.12 (5.12 3) may be used, but will not be supported with the start of 2018 (1.1.2018).

Within 2018 - all perl versions lower than 5.020000 (5.20.0) will get an unsupported state in relation with assp V2.


Thomas



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K Post
Circling back on this.  With the current 2017 dev versions of ASSP, it there any functional difference or downside if we're using ActiveState 5.20 (on Windows) vs your relocatable Strawberry perl zip?  

I don't want to be running a different version of Perl than you're using for dev, but it may be a while before I can properly migrate (and test) production to this new version.  I know 5.20 will be supported until at least 2018 - but does that mean the idea is to have it fully supported, as in all things will work as well under it as 5.24 or future newer versions?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:21 AM, Thomas Eckardt <[hidden email]> wrote:
Perl 5.24 on windows is currently possible using strawberry perl. An relocateable ZIP is available at SF download.
Active Perl requires currently, that you complie the needed XS modules by yourself.

Thomas




Von:        K Post <[hidden email]>
An:        For Users of ASSP <[hidden email]>
Datum:        02.01.2017 17:37
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-- or are you suggest Strawberry for Windows (which I've never touched)?

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:34 AM, K Post <[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks for letting us know.  Has any testing been done with 5.24.1 Per ActiveState on Windows?  I believe you didn't recommend newer than 5.20.x on Windows due to lack of module support in the repository.


On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Thomas Eckardt <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,

with the 1.1.2017 the development perl base is switched to Perl 5.024001 - 5.24.1.


NOTICE:

Perl 5.24 has still an experimental state in relation with assp. The first 2017 dev. build will solve all unexpected warnings in perl 5.24.1 (also in the yesterday published new plugin versions).

Target is, to give Perl 5.24 the production ready state within the first quater of 2017.


EOL - announcement for the next two years:


Starting with the third quater of 2017 (1.7.2017) ASSPv2 will no longer run with Perl 5.10!

Perl 5.12 (5.12 3) may be used, but will not be supported with the start of 2018 (1.1.2018).

Within 2018 - all perl versions lower than 5.020000 (5.20.0) will get an unsupported state in relation with assp V2.


Thomas



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Re: assp developent has switched perl base

Thomas Eckardt/eck
Don't worry - 5.20 will work. And yes there are differences - the largest is the supported unicode version. From the admin point of view, you'll not see any differences.
To track down all changes from 5.20 to 5.24 you need to read all perldelta documents for all dev steps http://search.cpan.org/dist/perl-5.24.0/pod/perldelta.pod
Maintening Strawberry Perl for assp is much more easy than Active Perl - except the installation of NetSNMP::agent, which needs a MSVC compiler instead of gcc.

Thomas





Von:        K Post <[hidden email]>
An:        For Users of ASSP <[hidden email]>
Datum:        23.01.2017 22:06
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] assp developent has switched perl base




Circling back on this.  With the current 2017 dev versions of ASSP, it there any functional difference or downside if we're using ActiveState 5.20 (on Windows) vs your relocatable Strawberry perl zip?  

I don't want to be running a different version of Perl than you're using for dev, but it may be a while before I can properly migrate (and test) production to this new version.  I know 5.20 will be supported until at least 2018 - but does that mean the idea is to have it fully supported, as in all things will work as well under it as 5.24 or future newer versions?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:21 AM, Thomas Eckardt <Thomas.Eckardt@...> wrote:
Perl 5.24 on windows is currently possible using strawberry perl. An relocateable ZIP is available at SF download.
Active Perl requires currently, that you complie the needed XS modules by yourself.


Thomas





Von:        
K Post <nntp.post@...>
An:        
For Users of ASSP <[hidden email]>
Datum:        
02.01.2017 17:37
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Re: [Assp-user] assp developent has switched perl base





-- or are you suggest Strawberry for Windows (which I've never touched)?

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:34 AM, K Post <
nntp.post@...> wrote:
Thanks for letting us know.  Has any testing been done with 5.24.1 Per ActiveState on Windows?  I believe you didn't recommend newer than 5.20.x on Windows due to lack of module support in the repository.


On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Thomas Eckardt <
Thomas.Eckardt@...> wrote:
Hi all,


with the 1.1.2017 the development perl base is switched to Perl 5.024001 - 5.24.1.


NOTICE:


Perl 5.24 has still an experimental state in relation with assp. The first 2017 dev. build will solve all unexpected warnings in perl 5.24.1 (also in the yesterday published new plugin versions).

Target is, to give Perl 5.24 the production ready state within the first quater of 2017.


EOL - announcement for the next two years:


Starting with the third quater of 2017 (1.7.2017) ASSPv2 will no longer run with Perl 5.10!

Perl 5.12 (5.12 3) may be used, but will not be supported with the start of 2018 (1.1.2018).

Within 2018 - all perl versions lower than 5.020000 (5.20.0) will get an unsupported state in relation with assp V2.


Thomas



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Re: assp developent has switched perl base

K Post
Thanks.  We'll migrate in due time to Strawberry on this box then.  
The powers that be give me a hard time (rightfully so I guess) when we install binaries except from "known" sources.  I of course consider YOU a very known source (after almost 20 years!!) but they might not.  Did you do anything special to the compilation of Strawberry?  I might be forced to install from the Strawberry site and then add modules by hand (or quietly from you).  Sometimes I hate rules, but I value my job....


On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 2:13 AM, Thomas Eckardt <[hidden email]> wrote:
Don't worry - 5.20 will work. And yes there are differences - the largest is the supported unicode version. From the admin point of view, you'll not see any differences.
To track down all changes from 5.20 to 5.24 you need to read all perldelta documents for all dev steps http://search.cpan.org/dist/perl-5.24.0/pod/perldelta.pod
Maintening Strawberry Perl for assp is much more easy than Active Perl - except the installation of NetSNMP::agent, which needs a MSVC compiler instead of gcc.

Thomas





Von:        K Post <[hidden email]>
An:        For Users of ASSP <[hidden email]>
Datum:        23.01.2017 22:06
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-user] assp developent has switched perl base




Circling back on this.  With the current 2017 dev versions of ASSP, it there any functional difference or downside if we're using ActiveState 5.20 (on Windows) vs your relocatable Strawberry perl zip?  

I don't want to be running a different version of Perl than you're using for dev, but it may be a while before I can properly migrate (and test) production to this new version.  I know 5.20 will be supported until at least 2018 - but does that mean the idea is to have it fully supported, as in all things will work as well under it as 5.24 or future newer versions?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 3:21 AM, Thomas Eckardt <[hidden email]> wrote:
Perl 5.24 on windows is currently possible using strawberry perl. An relocateable ZIP is available at SF download.
Active Perl requires currently, that you complie the needed XS modules by yourself.


Thomas





Von:        
K Post <[hidden email]>
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For Users of ASSP <[hidden email]>
Datum:        
02.01.2017 17:37
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Re: [Assp-user] assp developent has switched perl base





-- or are you suggest Strawberry for Windows (which I've never touched)?

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 11:34 AM, K Post <
[hidden email]> wrote:
Thanks for letting us know.  Has any testing been done with 5.24.1 Per ActiveState on Windows?  I believe you didn't recommend newer than 5.20.x on Windows due to lack of module support in the repository.


On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Thomas Eckardt <
[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi all,


with the 1.1.2017 the development perl base is switched to Perl 5.024001 - 5.24.1.


NOTICE:


Perl 5.24 has still an experimental state in relation with assp. The first 2017 dev. build will solve all unexpected warnings in perl 5.24.1 (also in the yesterday published new plugin versions).

Target is, to give Perl 5.24 the production ready state within the first quater of 2017.


EOL - announcement for the next two years:


Starting with the third quater of 2017 (1.7.2017) ASSPv2 will no longer run with Perl 5.10!

Perl 5.12 (5.12 3) may be used, but will not be supported with the start of 2018 (1.1.2018).

Within 2018 - all perl versions lower than 5.020000 (5.20.0) will get an unsupported state in relation with assp V2.


Thomas



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